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#219813 u 15-02-2012 10:50 GMT+01 sat :


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# spiro2903 :
Stavi ovdi koju ti grešku jack izbacuje pa ću vidit mogu li pomoć. Da li koristiš qjackctl za pokretanje jack-a i prespajanje?


Danas oko 14-15h ću napisati što mi izbacuje i što točno koristim..nisam stigao jučer uopće upaliti doma komp.

Mislim da je problem što doma na kompu imam 2 zvučne i zvuk radi bez tog jacka..valjda sam složio da zaobilazi to sve nekako (bolje me ne pitajte kako :D ).
Dok na ovom kompu gdje je Ubuntu Studio nije uopće bilo zvuka tako dugo dok nisam složio jack da radi kako spada.


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#219824 u 15-02-2012 13:57 GMT+01 sat :


Jack može raditi s 2 zvučne. U dokumentaciji piše da bi u tom slučaju trebalo napraviti 1 "virtulanu" zvučnu koju bi on koristio, a koja bi imala ulaze i izlaze od ove dvije. Ta "virtualna zvučna" bi bila u biti samo 1 skripta. Međutim meni je jednom radio i bez toga, ali dan-dva a nakon toga više ne i neznam ni sam kako :)




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#219833 u 15-02-2012 17:29 GMT+01 sat :


Evo me..upravo sam pokrenuo ovaj JACK Audio Connection Kit i ovo mi je javilo:

Akordi/Tabovi:
16:26:15.831 Patchbay deactivated.
16:26:15.878 Statistics reset.
16:26:15.933 ALSA connection graph change.
16:26:16.504 ALSA connection change.
16:26:34.295 Startup script...
16:26:34.296 artsshell -q terminate
sh: artsshell: not found
16:26:34.698 Startup script terminated with exit status=32512.
16:26:34.698 JACK is starting...
16:26:34.699 /usr/bin/jackd -dalsa -dhw:0 -r44100 -p1024 -n2
16:26:34.714 JACK was started with PID=2230.
jackd 0.118.0
Copyright 2001-2009 Paul Davis, Stephane Letz, Jack O'Quinn, Torben Hohn and others.
jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
JACK is running in realtime mode, but you are not allowed to use realtime scheduling.
Please check your /etc/security/limits.conf for the following lines
and correct/add them:
  @audio          -       rtprio          100
  @audio          -       nice            -10
After applying these changes, please re-login in order for them to take effect.
You don't appear to have a sane system configuration. It is very likely that you
encounter xruns. Please apply all the above mentioned changes and start jack again!
16:26:34.739 JACK was stopped with exit status=255.
16:26:34.739 Post-shutdown script...
16:26:34.740 killall jackd
jackd: no process found
16:26:35.168 Post-shutdown script terminated with exit status=256.
16:26:36.729 Could not connect to JACK server as client. - Overall operation failed. - Unable to connect to server. Please check the messages window for more info.


EDIT:
Sad sam tek skužil dok sam ovu cijelu poruku videl...ja u # /etc/security/limits.conf uopće nemam:
@audio - rtprio 100
@audio - nice -10

..a ne mogu to urediti niti dodati sa geditom niti word processorom..vele da je read only, a te security postavke za file su mi sve zatamljene tako da ne mogu promijeniti kako bi uređivao. Valjda ima neka naredba za terminal di otključam.

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#219836 u 15-02-2012 18:25 GMT+01 sat :


Mislim da možeš s geditom, ali ti treba root password. Dakle u terminalu napravi

#sudo gedit /etc/security/limits.conf

Pitat će te root password, upiši ga, editiraj i save-aj, provaj restartat komp i pokreni jack ponovo.
Imaš pod "setup" od jackctl dosta postavki pa se možeš i tu igrat.
Mogu ti poslat kakve su moje postavke ako triba.




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#219922 u 16-02-2012 16:50 GMT+01 sat :


Može, pošalji mi ako ti se da :D

Sad idem da vidim što ću "zbrčkati" hehe


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#219923 u 16-02-2012 17:23 GMT+01 sat :


Ovo ti je screenshot mojih postavki...većina je defaultna pa neznam koliko će pomoć, ali možeš se malo igrat pa vidit kako je tebi. Sa Frames/Period Sample rate i Periods/Buffer namještaš latenciju. Meni je oko 16ms, ali šta ti je manja to je bolje. Ispod ovog mani počinje već malo pucketat, a ovo mi je sasvim dovoljno.
Možeš se malo i igrat sa ovim Interface i Input Output devices ...klikni na ">" da ti da izbor interfacea koje imaš.






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#219927 u 16-02-2012 19:28 GMT+01 sat :


Hvala! Kolko sam vidio isto imamo :D

Sad nešt instaliravam po ovome:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation

ALIII trenutno mi je:
Onaj osjećaj...dok nešt pišeš i tipkaš po Terminalu pa nešt prođe, nešt ne, a ti nemaš pojima koji k**** delaš


Dodano nakon 1 sat 8 minute

EVOOOO!!! Jack se spojio na server i otvorio se Ardour!! :D

Nisam još 100% zadovoljan jer sam na Ubuntu Studio uspio složiti da mogu istovremeno slušati i muzuku sa jubito i Aedour i etc., a ovdje mi sad isključi jubito.

Držte fige! :D


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#219935 u 16-02-2012 19:50 GMT+01 sat :


instaliraj pavucontrol (alsa control) i onda tu možeš odabrat šta da ti chrome/firefox koristi, tj. koji zvučni izlaz, a ti odaberi jack i trebalo bi radit...




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#220391 u 20-02-2012 14:13 GMT+01 sat :


Ništa od Ubuntu Desktop 11.04...pomagao mi je i profesor informatike, odnosno mentor i odlučili smo da je najbolje da krenemo ispočetka - znači stavili smo Mint, updateano sve, zvuk ima u sistemu, jack server u redu se pokreće, ardour radi, jednino sada treba složit da bude zvuk iz sistema u jack pa ardour.

Tu je i moje sljedeće pitanje: u tom jacku mi ne prikazuje PulseAudio i mislim da zbog toga mi nema zvuka kada se jack audio connection kit pokrene.
Da li možda ima rješenje za to? ..samo instaliram Pusle i trebao bi se pojaviti u jack audio connection kitu?


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#220427 u 20-02-2012 20:48 GMT+01 sat :


Treba ti mislim "pulseaudio-module-jack" i onda bi ti trebalo automatski kad pokreneš jack iz qjackctl povezat pulse audio i jack.
Evo ti i screenshotovi od paketa koje ja imam instalirane, pa provjeri jesu li i tebi ovi instalirani:










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#220485 u 21-02-2012 15:23 GMT+01 sat :


Spiro ,ajme meni opet ništa ne razumin, ma nisan ja za te stvari.


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#220567 u 22-02-2012 01:14 GMT+01 sat :


A skoro bi rađe da ni ja ne razumim :)
Evo ponoća i ja završavam gitaru (bar šta se elektronike tiče) :) ...prominia sam potove, kondenzatore (doda i treble bleed), žice i mašinice (one planet waves). I sve to samo u 8 sati rada :D ...puka sam na živce, mislim da neću nikad više otvarat gitaru...a sutra mi još ostaje da uštimam vrat, intonaciju, tremolo, visinu žica i sl. :)
Možda stavim negdi po forumu i slike šta sam radia.
Laku noć, idem leć, krepan sam :|




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#220575 u 22-02-2012 10:58 GMT+01 sat :


Uglavnom sve imam..osim mislim da jedne ili max dvije stvari koje nemam u manageru za pakete i još što mi par njih neće instalirati jer o nekim ovisnostima s drugim fileovima priča. Ali imam alsu, imam pulse i ništa. :/

Možeš mi još staviti print screen od jack audio connection kit dok se pokrene (konekcije). I izbornik s sound aplikacijama.

I još sam čitao da možda ima veze što rade i alsa i pusle..pa možda zato nešto?


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#220588 u 22-02-2012 14:01 GMT+01 sat :


Da li si editirao /etc/security/limits.conf?
Provaj vidit da li si dodan kao user pod grupu pulse-rt i jackuser. Možeš se dodat sa:
#usermod -a -G pulse-rt,jackuser "<tvoj username>"
Da li ti je instaliran pulseaudio-module-jack?
Da li ti je instaliran pavucontrol?
Kakve ti greške (poruke) qjackctl izbacuju kad startaš preko njega jack?

Evo ti screenshotovi:






Ja imam pulse i alsu, i sve radi OK. Provjeri kad startaš jack pod zvučnom ikonom (za upravljanje zvukom) koje su ti postavke, možda i tu štagod nađeš...




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#220616 u 22-02-2012 18:19 GMT+01 sat :


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# spiro2903 :
a li si editirao /etc/security/limits.conf?
Provaj vidit da li si dodan kao user pod grupu pulse-rt i jackuser. Možeš se dodat sa:
#usermod -a -G pulse-rt,jackuser "<tvoj username>"
Da li ti je instaliran pulseaudio-module-jack?
Da li ti je instaliran pavucontrol?
Kakve ti greške (poruke) qjackctl izbacuju kad startaš preko njega jack?

Evo ti screenshotovi:






Ja imam pulse i alsu, i sve radi OK. Provjeri kad startaš jack pod zvučnom ikonom (za upravljanje zvukom) koje su ti postavke, možda i tu štagod nađeš...


Ovako:
Editirao sam sad /etc/security/limits.conf
Grupe pulse-rt i jackuser uopće nisu postojale pa sam ih ja napravio (ne znam koliko to ima smisla da sam sam radio) i dodao se nutra.
Pulseaudio-module-jack i pavucontrol piše da su instalirani.

Qjackctl - pogledao sam u setup i tamo mi je postavljeno hw:0 HDA Intel..mogu staviti i na hw:0.0 STAC92xx Analog i hw:0.1 STAC92xx Digital.
Ali moja kartica (koju želim koristiti) je: hw:1 SB Audigy 2 Platinum ...i kad postavim na nju i pokremen jack onda se neće pokrenuti i baci sljedeću poruku:
Akordi/Tabovi:
17:12:06.148 Patchbay deactivated.
17:12:06.149 Statistics reset.
17:12:06.153 ALSA connection change.
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server socket
jack server is not running or cannot be started
17:12:06.189 ALSA connection graph change.
17:12:35.007 JACK is starting...
17:12:35.008 /usr/bin/jackd -dalsa -r44100 -p1024 -n3 -D -Chw:0,0 -Phw:0,1
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server socket
jack server is not running or cannot be started
no message buffer overruns
17:12:35.045 JACK was started with PID=3125.
no message buffer overruns
jackdmp 1.9.7
Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
Copyright 2004-2011 Grame.
jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 10
control device hw:0
control device hw:0
audio_reservation_init
Acquire audio card Audio0
creating alsa driver ... hw:0,1|hw:0,0|1024|3|44100|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
control device hw:0
configuring for 44100Hz, period = 1024 frames (23.2 ms), buffer = 3 periods
ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 32bit integer little-endian
ALSA: use 3 periods for capture
ALSA: final selected sample format for playback: 32bit integer little-endian
ALSA: use 3 periods for playback
17:12:37.111 JACK connection change.
17:12:37.114 Server configuration saved to "/home/alen/.jackdrc".
17:12:37.115 Statistics reset.
17:12:37.138 Client activated.
17:12:37.178 JACK connection graph change.
17:13:43.829 Client deactivated.
17:13:43.830 JACK is stopping...
jack main caught signal 15
control device hw:0
Released audio card Audio0
audio_reservation_finish
control device hw:0
17:13:43.915 JACK was stopped successfully.
17:14:45.886 JACK is starting...
17:14:45.886 /usr/bin/jackd -dalsa -dhw:1 -r44100 -p1024 -n3
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server socket
jack server is not running or cannot be started
17:14:45.915 JACK was started with PID=3159.
no message buffer overruns
no message buffer overruns
jackdmp 1.9.7
Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
Copyright 2004-2011 Grame.
jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 10
control device hw:1
control device hw:1
audio_reservation_init
Acquire audio card Audio1
creating alsa driver ... hw:1|hw:1|1024|3|44100|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
control device hw:1
configuring for 44100Hz, period = 1024 frames (23.2 ms), buffer = 3 periods
ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 16bit little-endian
ALSA: got smaller periods 2 than 3 for capture
ALSA: cannot configure capture channel
Cannot initialize driver
JackServer::Open() failed with -1
Failed to open server
17:14:46.102 JACK was stopped with exit status=255.
17:14:48.078 Could not connect to JACK server as client. - Overall operation failed. - Unable to connect to server. Please check the messages window for more info.
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server socket
jack server is not running or cannot be started


Ja sam si sad instalirao i TeamViewer 7 (upute: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/12/quickly-install-teamviewer-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/) pa ako si za spojiš se na moj komp pa pogledaš di je što i zašto.

EDIT:
Dobio sam pulse u jacku..trebao sam ovo upisati u jack setup:
Akordi/Tabovi:
pacmd load-module module-jack-source channels=8; pacmd load-module module-jack-sink channels=8;


Ali zvuka nema i dalje..i errore brutalno izbacuje u message prozoru.

Ovaj post je izmjenjen od VHalen (prije 22-02-2012 18:37, )


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